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Sale  Single Turbo Conversion Kit for Peterbilt C-15 Acert 2004.5 - 2007 Package Includes: Big Boss Stage 1 Turbo Part # 720001 Original Price: $3295.00 Big Boss CAT E-Model Exhaust Manifold Part # 9445C Original Price $1695.00 CAT E-Model Install Kit Part # 9445K Original Price $510 Single Turbo Conversion Kit Part # 716015K Original Price $1122.00 Exhaust Downpipe Part # 716EX Original Price $625.00 Discounted Package Price: $6995
NOT FOR SALE OR USE IN CALIFORNIA Caterpillar C-15 Acert Twin to Single Turbo Conversion Kit Improved Fuel EconomyIncreased ReliabilityReduced MaintenanceLonger Engine LifeCooler OperationLower Repair CostsSharper Throttle ResponseKit Includes: Truck Edition Performance Module with Lifetime Warranty. |
Subject: c15 cat twin turbo conversion to single turbo |
Subject: RE: c15 cat twin turbo conversion to single turbo |
west central illinois
Subject: RE: c15 cat twin turbo conversion to single turbo |
Interstate 35 North ia
I know a couple guys that have done the conversion and they had no regrets . One of the guys claims he has about 700 horse after a PDI tune . But then some drivers would make good fishermen !!!!!! sloughclubSubject: RE: c15 cat twin turbo conversion to single turbo |
Southern Missouri
We did it to an 08 model which means it had a dpf filter which fell off during conversion,truck lost almost 700 lbs,good bit better fuel mileage,power is unreal,turned a truck that was a piece of constant headache into the best truck in our operation.Was expensive.11000, but double o secret probabtion worth it. jdfarmSubject: RE: c15 cat twin turbo conversion to single turbo |
Janesville
You can replace both turbos for less than $4,300 from Cat if you check around. Check with the truck dealers first, believe it or not they can give you a pretty good price.
If you want to go single that's fine too, but if you are going to replace the 2 turbos buy a one piece ceramic coated one from PDI or some one and I think you would save some money and be just as happy. Plus if you ever do have to take it to a dealer for something you don't have to worry about getting the run around from them. Not all dealers do but you never know. That's my 2 cents.
4WDSubject: RE: c15 cat twin turbo conversion to single turbo |
NE part of SW Iowa
I would ask a few question, before buying, such as:
What happens when the ECM (computer) fails?
Do you mail it back to the guy, and wait for it to get repaired or reprogrammed? (with special software)
Do they send you a loaner ECM? (with special software)
How many days, will that take?
What about the turbo, if there is a problem?
Where do you get the replacement?
How long will that take for this special turbo, to arrive?
What about exhaust manifold, is it special , too?
What exhaust gaskets does it take? Factory or special ones?
I only bring this up, because of one truck that a buddy worked on that had a "special 700-750 HP" overhaul done with all this special stuff = ECM, turbo, exhaust manifold, marine camshaft, and maybe injectors were special , too.
Anyways, the Over-the-road trucker(coast to coast) had been broke down 3 times, just trying to cross the USA, once!. He had to wait on parts, each time(= get motel rooms), mechanics had to call the special dealership (I think it was in Canada) to get parts shipped out. I know the mechanic said one earlier failure, was turbo, and during this failure, was an injector (again) and the ECM had to be shipped back to special dealership(they sent a second ECM, to speed things up)
Mechanic said, truck driver/owner was really having second thoughts, about this special 700-750 HP overhaul, that he was sold. I know the truck driver, told mechanic, that this engine was "eating injectors" . So the mechanic assumed he been thru at least 3 injectors, so far. {= Maybe that why the ECM was getting send back???}
These issues, might not be as big of a concern, for a farmer (not needing to live in motel rooms), but mechanic got the feeling that maybe not going with such a "souped up" overhaul was a better choice.
Which brings the question, Can a person just get a single turbo conversion but stay at around 550-600 HP(more normal HP rating) = I assume so, but I've never looked into it.
sloughclubSubject: RE: c15 cat twin turbo conversion to single turbo |
Southern Missouri
Understsnd what youre saying about why do it,we have an 07 that runs with that 08 a lot,both nice petes, the 07 is such a pooch compared to the single turb 08 ,had it looked at a few times trying to help it,put on a new turbo at 700000 not bad but didnt help it a bit,07 has 800000 now 08 has 500000,guy that did the conversion does a lot of them and says when i get tired of it running so far behind the 08,bring it over along with the money and he'll fix it,its going next week.07 driver wishes he could pass on a two lane like the 08 can and i know what he means ive driven them both,and for me i think its worth it. hillfarmerSubject: RE: c15 cat twin turbo conversion to single turbo |
Subject: RE: c15 cat twin turbo conversion to single turbo |
South Western Ontario, Canada
Subject: RE: c15 cat twin turbo conversion to single turbo |
Central ND
We have a pdi one built like you are talking, it has been built to 750+ for 600,000 miles and no problems. We had some guys hauling some fertilizer in with one built up too and it was the first thing they did to their trucks when they bought some newer ones. I probably know a half dozen guys around here with the pdi upgrades and I have never heard one of them say they wouldn't do it again, they are all super fussy though and easy drivers. Maybe it all gets back to how some people could break an anvil if you have them a rubber mallet? a4t-1600Subject: RE: c15 cat twin turbo conversion to single turbo |
Dearfield Co.
I use the replacement turbos from borg warner. The last ones we bought were right at 3000 for the pair. I have done some single turbo stuff in many different ways from the $10000 way with a c-15 head and marine cam and 6nz ecm etc. The one thing you have when you get done is a engine that you can't even park on a cat dealers lot.My recommendations would be keep the aftermarket twins and just program the air intake actuators out and watch the pyro. If you have high exhaust temps switch the cam (this will depend on which accert you have) to a 6nz cam and drive the pig. We haven't done one for some time since my ECMguy went to jail in Jan of last year and I am waiting to get my ecms back he has. he might just be missing my calls for a reason LOL
WItitan2Subject: liability? |
Pierce county WI
So I've been looking at trucks.Ive speced a glider, and they're just too much money. So I've looked at 12/13 trucks cause I've heard they're better, but still lots of expensive components that have problems. So I've got a friend that's doing deletes and pdi programming, says he can make those trucks excellent. However, when they do this for you,they make you sign a piece of paper that says you are only going to use it off road. Well if you are reporting ifta, and registering the truck every year, then isn't the epa going to be able to come after you if they ever audit a shop, then they can come after you! Is this something to be concerned with? a4t-1600Subject: RE: liability? |
Dearfield Co.
I am concerned ---------------I actually had a visit from a fed due to a motorcycle I had a now defunct shop in Denver do engine work on and he came to talk to me about that so that s pretty much ended it for us. The shop only got a $25000 fine but it ended him . I have also heard last week of Louisiana fining a trucker $25000 for no particulate filter on a late model truck. If I was going to allow stuff to fall off a road truck I would leave the def tank on as well as the particulate filter and even have def in the tank. hollow the filter out and go on...... At this point in my life that $25000 fine might be hard to overcome.I would not under any circumstance sign any papers. I did when I bought a tuner for a dodge and when the EPA cracked down on them and they were buying them back and sent the letter I sold it back to them. These anti tamper laws have been on the books since the 70s and everyone has gotten away with tampering but it is about revenue and this will end. If you can do the modifications your self and buy programing where no paper work is signed then I would do it but agreeing its off road only is not good all it took was H&S tuners to prove that. They are back going but not with as aggressive of tuning andI still have the fear they are working with the feds.
I should add my cat ecm tuner went to jail over stolen heavy equipment and a step deck-------I dont know anymore about it than that and his mechanic isn't answering my calls at this point I just tried a bit ago
Edited by a4t-1600 3/27/2016 11:45
TA63Subject: RE: c15 cat twin turbo conversion to single turbo |
SD
Try a pdi stage 1 tune on your 07 instead of spending 10k plus to convert. It turns the acert into an entirely different beast. hillfarmerSubject: RE: liability? |
Subject: RE: liability? |
Pierce county WI
That's what scares me. I'd love to build a glider, but ouch, they're expensive. I should just keep the 98 and the 78. IstumpedSubject: RE: liability? |
ne il
Save yourself a headache and buy a glider. I don't think I would go thru all the manual labor in doing it. Don't buy one from fitzgeralds though IstumpedSubject: RE: c15 cat twin turbo conversion to single turbo |
ne il
emtbd1979 - 3/26/2016 12:41
I think the $3,000 is a piece not a set. I have 620,000 on my 07 and I'm going single before 700,000. Those twins are the work of the devil. Underpowered and can cause a lot of grief if one decides to let go and they do often.
I'm curious of your results when you do it. Who do you plan on working with to do this? Are you doing it yourself? Thanks
WItitan2Subject: RE: liability? |
Pierce county WI
I just don't want a big payment. That old 98 has bought a lot of machinery for me. Big truck payment jd4930Subject: RE: c15 cat twin turbo conversion to single turbo |
Central ND
Semi trailer sales in Bismarck is a PDI dealer, I'm not sure where you are located? I believe there is somebody in gwinner that does it as well. nekfarmerSubject: RE: c15 cat twin turbo conversion to single turbo |
NE KS
What is so special about the pdi single turbo? Is it just basically a cat turbo, something like on a 3406e? Why couldn't you take a bw 171702 (96mm turbine, 1.32 a/r 75 mm inducer) and make it work? I just don't understand why the kits are so expensive. I'm sure they are worth it but $7-10k seems expensive. TA63Subject: RE: c15 cat twin turbo conversion to single turbo |
SD
There are a lot of other parts that need to be replaced besides the turbo and manifold. Honestly, it's not the turbos that cause the issues with these motors, it's the intake valve actuators.
